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Suprise Saturday: Chapter 7 & 8

Chapter 7


Stephen brought her back to the original topic, ”So from what you are saying, all the people who come to the summer pool parties we go to are swingers or poly or whatever. Right?”


Sue nodded, “Yes pretty much. Even in the poly circle there are subgroups who tend to mostly play among themselves. You may have noticed the pool parties at the Pulaski’s have older couples like the Kramers and McSherry’s. While Vivian has worked to bring in some new younger couples you have seen at her pool parties the last few years, most of the younger people you see are children of the older poly group.”


Stephen nodded. Now that she told him, he saw it, but it was just one more thing in front of his nose that he had missed. Still, he had to say, “I just don’t see how we guys never suspected about all the sex. The clues were right in front of us yet apparently only Dianna saw them”

“Were there other clues?” Sue asked.


“They are only clues now looking back. But like I said, I think both Kate and Dianna have been seeing more than we have. They tried to point them out, but we just couldn’t see.”

“Like what?” she asked


“We could see there was something you didn’t want the kids to see or know about. We just did not know what it was. But we didn’t think that was weird since adults do that kind of thing all the time. Like those summer pool parties, they are loaded with clues we just didn’t put together. So, we all know we do them every year: the Pulaski’s for Memorial Day, the Flint’s for 4th of July, and until they broke up we went to Gill’s house for Labor Day.” He did not mention it but the last two years the Labor Day party had been at the McCurry’s. “Like you said each party has a few different people, but the core is the same ten or twelve families. We kids knew who were the families that made up that central group; but no one let us kids know how you all know each other, other than from the parties. We assumed the big Halloween Party, the New Year’s Eve Party and the Valentine parties were with the same people, but we never imagined the idea of swinger parties at a hotel like you said.”


Sue nodded, “I didn’t know you guys had thought this through so much.”


“All five of us have talked about it a lot, especially in the last year or two. And we realized that if you include everything from babies to high schoolers, there were often twenty or more kids at the pool parties, , we could tell we were tag-alongs. The parties were not kid’s parties at all and like half the people didn’t even bring kids. I think Gil was the first one to notice that those parties were the only time we ever saw our mothers wearing thong bikinis unless it was just our families at one of their pools. You guys never wore them to the beach or anywhere else. Early last summer Dianna actually said that you all might be swingers. Collin and I dismissed it and said she’d been looking at too much porn. Even we know that most of what we see on porn is not real and we pretty much assumed all the videos talking about swingers was just made up. And she’s a real porn fiend. According to her brother, she’s been eating it up since she was about twelve. So we figured that is why she even thought to say you were swingers.”

Sue took note. Sure, she knew Stephen jerked to porn, but to hear him say that porn was so much part of their lives that even Dianna, younger than Kate by over half a year, has been looking at it regularly for over two years made her think. Was porn as much part of the teenage experience, even in middle school, as rock music was in her day? Perhaps it was. From what she’d learned today her kids and Collin were more sexually knowledgeable than she’d imagined. But she was not sure that knowledge was all that unusual when she was their age, she just had not been a part. Clearly, they knew more about sex than she could have fathomed when she was in high school.

Dianna was the only one of the four kids Stephen hadn’t talked about having sex. Likely she was sexually active by now too. If she was, surely Stephen knew all about it, but she didn’t want to put him on the spot by asking. Sue recalled back when those four were still potty training; she went to her first Poly Circle Christmas party at the Pulaski’s. Just in passing she had heard that while she was screwing her brains out at that party there was a parallel party at the McCurry’s for the teenage kids. She later asked someone about it.


She was told that the teenage children of the Pulaski’s, the McCurry’s, the Kramer’s and Lopez’s had their own Christmas party the same night of the adult party. At the time she was closer in age to those high school kids than she was their parents. Perhaps that is why even then, she saw the good sense in it. It was called The Safer Sex Christmas Party and all the gifts they swapped had a safe sex theme. She was told that twelve teenagers were being chaperoned by two college-age kids of the poly circle members. Since five of the poly circle kids had brought dates, not all the attendees were children of circle members. She’d seen the logic and practicality, but at the time her kids were too young to even imagine them that age, or being sexually active. That was then, but today, due to what she was beginning to think of as a miracle, she was not only coming clean about her open marriage; but she was learning how her own kid’s sexual values mirrored her own. They had been learning all about her positive view about casual sex even if neither she nor they knew they were. Perhaps she should help organize a Christmas party this year for the teenage kids. Certainly, in the larger swinger circle there were far more than a dozen high school-age children. Those kids were likely as sexually active as hers and Vivian’s. What a great way to help those friends open up to their kids.


Though all this was going on in her head, she didn’t say anything as Stephen went on. She noted he had stopped masturbating, but she didn’t ask why. He sat up and said “Oh, just to let you know all the guys, even the ones who are older than us, have talked about your tits and ass for years. Not just yours but all the moms at those parties. Even Mrs. Pulaski, Mrs. Eisenstein, Mrs. Lopez and Mrs. McCurry get looks and boners. Damn Mom, Mrs. Eisenstein might even be old enough to be my grandmother, but that mesh one-piece thong she wears, the one that you can see everything through like it isn’t even there, gives all the guy’s wood… including me.”


Sue chuckled “I’m sure she would be more than pleased to hear that. If it were anyone else, Francine would say that suit is too revealing for her Memorial Day party, but Stella is sort of the grand dame of our group and she can do what she wants. And yes she does look good in it.” She couldn’t help adding “And when she takes it off, she is even more impressive. It’s hard to believe she has seven grandkids and the oldest is not much younger than you.”


Stephen liked the thought. “I’d bone her in a heartbeat if I had the chance. That is if I weren’t with Jenny.”


Sue smiled, “Give it a few more years and if you ask nicely, I’m sure she would be happy to. But I’ve never known her to do it with any of the next generation until they are in their twenties. She is more scrupulous than Maria Lopez or Janice McCurry, either of them would probably jump at the chance at the Memorial Day party if you asked. If its OK with Jenny, it would certainly be OK with me.” She let out a snort, “I might even want to watch and make sketches.”


They both laughed and Stephen tucked yet another nugget of information away. This was just not like he was talking to his mother at all. Today his mom had told him that all he needed to do is ask and he could have sex with three of her friends… it even seemed like she was encouraging him to do it. With that in mind it was easy to continue on. “It’s weird that all of a sudden, I now see your friends as, like sexy in the way I’d like to do it with them. Before today there really had been a separation between your friends and younger women in my mind. Though I knew other guys didn’t see it that way. I’m sure I’ve never told you about it, but I have a distinct memory of the first time I realized that guys who were not grownups, just the guys older than me, saw you as someone they would like to screw. We were at the Pulaski’s big pool party and Rob Pulaski, the Lopez boys, and …what was his name? Zach, I don’t remember who his parents were. I heard them talking pretty dirty, at least to me at the time it was dirty. They looked at you and Mrs. Flint and Mrs. Kenopple and said things that made it clear they thought you three were super Milfs. It was three summers ago, I guess it will be four this year, so I was thirteen. Rob and the other older guys were still in high school. I heard them talking about all the moms, not just you and your friends. They were comparing their tits and asses and stuff. I couldn’t help but listen. It was the first time I really understood that guys saw you differently than I did. They saw you as just a hottie, not at all like a mom. To me no matter what you wear, how much skin you show, or how many people you have sex with, you are just Mom not a Milf. Well, I guess until today. You are still mom and I can’t see you the way those guys do, but I won’t see you quite the same way again.”


He was once again playing with Sue’s lady parts as he talked, alternately stroking her clit and putting fingers all the way inside. Sue couldn’t say anything. She had not let go of his erection even when he’d paused playing with her. He took his fingers from her pussy to his mouth and licked the juices off. “After all, I’ve played with your tits, your pussy, and tasted you; and you have… you are jacking me off. I honestly don’t think it is a bad thing, but it is true we are playing with each other right in front of each other. And… I’m sorry Mom, but I find it super-hot. Because of that, I can’t see you the same.”


She just shook her head “I know. I won’t see you as a child ever again.” Without thinking she began to say “After this is over, I don’t see why we can’t….” She stopped herself before she said what she was thinking. She hated how she had such poor impulse control while in this body.

Apparently, Stephen was thinking the same thing and finished, “look at these pics together and watch each other play with ourselves.” Her face gave away that was indeed what she was about to say. So, he just said, “I don’t see why not. I think we both enjoy doing it. Why can’t we do it in our own bodies?”


“I’m not answering one way or another, and you know why.” They both thought on that for a moment. How much will this event change their lives?


After a minute, Stephen went on with his story. “But I’m talking about a pool party almost four years ago. I understood why they looked at the McCurry’s twin daughters like that. Sure they were mothers, in that they had babies, but I’d seen them at those parties for years before they were moms. I remember Joliette and Marcella for sure. They might be the first two females I ever noticed as being…I’m not sure hot is the right word. Perhaps they were the first females I looked at as females, if you know what I mean. But even when I saw Joliette posing for you in November it was different because she was still not like a mother in my book, even though I know she has two kids now. But back then, to the older guys, they didn’t see you any different than I see Joliette & Marcella. That was weird.”


Sue couldn’t help but ask “And, what did they say about me?”


Stephen laughed, “It was the first time I’d ever heard the word Milf. And pretty much all the moms with kids who were not grown were Milfs to them. But why I remember that so clearly is that Rob bragged that you had agreed to boink him before the end of the party. I was just old enough to understand what that meant; but I knew that his brag was not only impossible, it was just gross. The other guys in the group told him he was full of shit and that he would get a chance to screw you when pigs fly. So I never once thought there was a word of truth to it. It was just how he looked at you that was weird.”

He looked at his mom. Her face, well his face, said something. A light came on. “Did you? Did you fuck him?”


Though she’d had thousands of sexual experiences with men and women of all ages, this was one she remembered well. And not just because his mother had given her a print of the photo she had taken of the two of them laying in the bed (barely covered) after they were done.


Rob had been skinny and very socially awkward. Because he was four years older than Stephen it was unlikely that her son realized that. For some reason, of all the women he saw at his pool, he latched on to her when he was fourteen. He would be underfoot anytime she was at their place, but it was sort of cute like a lost puppy.


Rob was sort of an “oops” baby. The oldest of their other three children was ten years older than him and they had not planned on any more. The Pulaski’s chose not to even try to determine his paternity though they knew it could not possibly be Will himself since he’d had a vasectomy years before. As far as they were concerned Rob was the son of William and Francine Pulaski and that was that. It was helpful that he looked so much like his mother as to keep down any unwanted questions. Sue had noticed over the years that Rob was treated unusually well by the poly group as sort of a child of the community.


While not as open as the McCurry’s the Pulaski’s were far less concerned about secrecy with Rob than they had their older kids. After all, he was the only one in the family who didn’t know the reality of their lifestyle. Since he was young, he’d seen men, women, and couples go into his parents’ bedroom for hours on end. And as the years wore on, his mother was less and less concerned about walking around the house in the nude. As part of his thirteenth birthday events, his parents spelled out to him they were polyamorous and had a group of friends with whom they had sex. He let them know he had already figured that out on his own. After that, they declared themselves nudist, not just in their home and their pool, but the family went to nudist resorts in the summer. They were very careful around whom they went nude at their house though.


Additionally, as the McCurry’s had done, the Pulaski’s ceased hiding sex from Rob at that time. So he began to see how adults interacted in new ways. As a very young teenager, he witnessed how adults behaved when working up to proposing & initiating sex, foreplay, and engaging in a whole range of sexual acts. As part of the circle, Sue knew that before he was fifteen, he had seen her having sex a good many times with a good many partners. However, neither she nor the Pulaski’s ever removed their swimsuits when Sue’s kids were with her at the pool. She was aware though that as often as not, her son found Francine sunbathing wearing nothing but sunscreen when he arrived to clean their pool. She told Sue she had not made a big deal about it and just covered up each time. Stephen had never mentioned it, she only knew about that since Francine had told her. Looking back she could not find a good reason why she had not OK’ed nudity when Kate and Stephen were there. Now she saw that as a mistake, or at least a missed opportunity. Significantly the Pulaski’s taught their youngest son to keep the family business in the family and there was no reason to think her kids would not do the same. Hearing that Rob had boasted that he would have sex with her at that party was a rare breach of the family agreements.


All through high school, Rob was behind his peers in physical and social development, so he struggled with fitting in at school. But perhaps because at home he was treated as an adult in many ways, he seemed very comfortable with adults. She would never forget the first time he asked Sue if he could have sex with her. She still laughed to herself thinking back about how earnest he was. She was at their pool sunning beside his mother, nude. He was two weeks past his sixteenth birthday, less than a hundred pounds of skin and bone sporting a full erection. His fully grown penis looked odd on his rather juvenile-looking body. Despite his appearance, he was very smart and observant. Imitating the straightforward way he’d seen men and women ask others to have sex, he looked Sue right in the eye without a hint of embarrassment. He told her that he was still a virgin and he wanted her to be his first sex partner. Of course, he meant that very minute. She could have laughed at the ridiculousness of it or cried at how pathetic it also was. She did neither. She looked him back in the eye and thanked him for thinking of her, but she let him know clearly she could not have sex with him until he was at least seventeen.

Rob’s mother later thanked her for her polite but candid response. What they did not know at the time was that Rob took that to heart as a promise. For the next year he continued to follow her around. A few times she was sure he was spying & masturbating when she had sex in his house or by their pool; but she never said anything to him. He had turned seventeen in early May, and it just so happened the first time he had seen her was at the Memorial Day pool party. In a repeat of what he had done the year before, he again walked up to her; this time she was in the Pulaski’s kitchen helping his mother with the food. He was less juvenile-looking than the first time and fully dressed, though he could still pass for a middle school boy. She knew right off what he was going to ask, but she waited for him to do so. Then again looking directly into his eyes, she said she would love to, but he would need to wait till the party died down. She was impressed with his self-control. He simply thanked her and suggested they meet in his parent’s room at 5:30 PM. She agreed. When he walked away, his mother hugged Sue and thanked her profusely.


At 5:30 she walked into Will and Francine’s bedroom. She’d had sex in that bed at least fifty times over the prior years. It was a California King with a faux canopy that hid that there were mirrors over the bed. Rob was there, already fully nude with an erection. She knew how long he had been waiting for this moment, so she was determined to make it special.


Unlike the year before when she was still slightly taller than him, this time he topped her by at least three inches. He was clearly petrified. She stood in front of him and softly kissed him on the lips. “It’s OK. I will let you know what to do at each step. Your body will fill in the gaps naturally.” Then again kissed him softly, but let the kiss linger.


For the next hour, she introduced him to a whole new world. She hadn’t even gotten his penis into her mouth when he blew the first time. She was afraid he was going to melt down, so she scooped up the semen from her breasts and put it in her mouth. That seemed to calm him. The second ejaculation went down her throat and the third in her vagina. All in the space of an hour. She enjoyed the whole process so much that she offered to continue his “lessons” the next week, and the next. For the rest of the summer and through his senior year of high school Sue had a weekly “tea” with Francine Pulaski. She missed some of the Thursday afternoons but she made most of them. She thoroughly enjoyed planning for each of Rob’s “after-school lessons.” He was always so eager, compliant, and grateful. Francine seemed almost as grateful as her son. She knew he lacked the confidence and social skills that came so easily to her older children. Fourteen months after that first time, the eighteen-year-old who left for The Citadel to become a cadet was far more poised and self-assured than would seem possible by a single year’s passage. Sue felt some pride that she had helped him in ways far beyond sex lessons.


By the time he was an upperclassman at the Citadel, the scrawny scared kid had become a solid young man and leader at the South Carolina military college. Long gone were the lessons. The last time Sue met Rob in his parents’ bedroom, over Christmas break, he easily lifted her by the thighs to hold her in the air while he drove his cock into her. She was exhilarated by the ride and the knowledge she had made it possible.


All those memories shot through her mind in a matter of seconds. “Yes,” she told Stephen. “When, before the party, he asked me if I would have sex with him, I told him I would. I was honored that he wanted me to be his very first sexual partner. After that, I had sex with him nearly every week for over a year before he went off to college. You never heard any more about it because he knew our actions were not for public consumption.”


Stephen thought he should not be surprised, but he was. Rob had been telling the truth. ‘Mom had really fucked Rob Pulaski when he was my age!’. He asked, “Why?”


Sue smiled. “I thought it was the right thing to do. He needed confidence and I knew I could help. Sex is good for many things, and in his case, it helped him overcome his self-doubt. As I said, I spent time with him almost every week throughout his senior year at Francis Marion. I know it really helped him. He is now a supremely confident leader in the cadet corps at the Citadel. I’m actually very proud of what I did for him.”


Stephen had never thought of it that way. His mother was far more interesting than he had ever imagined, and he knew his mom was the most interesting mother he knew even before this day. “That’s cool Mom. It really is. Are you still doing it with him when he is home from school?”


Sue nodded. “Yes. We had a very nice time over Christmas break. He’s become quite a young man.”


“Did his mother know? I mean back then.”


“Of course she did. I wouldn’t have done it otherwise. She thanked me many times for helping him.”


“Did he know his mother knew?”


Sue was a little exasperated. “Yes, we did it right in his parent’s bed that first time and most of the time he was still in high school. She walked in on us more than once.” She laughed out loud, “A couple of months later he asked to have our weekly session right out by their swimming pool. His parents and sisters were out there with us, as well as Margret’s husband and their two kids. I made a point to make him look better at it than he really was. I guess we went on for something over half an hour right on the pool deck; long enough for him to ejaculate twice. Of course, his little nephew and niece didn’t pay any attention to us, but he was very pleased with himself when his sister Margret came over and talked to me while I rode him.

But understand, having sex out at the pool while other people sunned or swam wasn’t bad manners. Even when Rob was just fourteen, he was out with us when I had sex with Ken beside their pool many times. We didn’t mind that he openly watched us and by the end of the summer, he’d seen pretty much all the ways a couple can do it. By the time he and I had sex that day in front of his parents and sisters, he’d seen all four of them doing the same thing dozens of times with just as many people, so it was his way of joining the club as it were.”


Stephen then got the look as if he were a little offended. With a sour face he asked “So when he was my age he’d been allowed to watch adults have sex for years? I’ve never seen it live like that. Why didn’t you tell me about your swinging and stuff until this thing happen to us?

Sue didn’t have an answer. “I really am not sure. I’ve never been ashamed of what I do. I think it’s just like the house rules. Things just happened and I never found the right time to set things straight. I know I should have. As far as I know, all the other parents in the poly circle told their children when they were around fourteen. Some, like the Pulaski’s, but not all, let their kids know they were free to watch if they wanted to.”


“Why didn’t you? That kinda pisses me off” Stephen said.


“I know. I don’t blame you. Like I said before, we almost told all four of you last summer but for some reason I can’t explain I asked Viv to wait another year. If I had to do it over, I would do it like the McCurry’s did. They never hid any of it from their kids. Their three children knew their parents played naked with their friends from the time they could talk. Seeing adults have sex was just so boring to them I understand they would walk right past an ongoing orgy and never even notice. Now, looking back I think their approach might have been right. Perhaps someplace between what they did and what I did would be the ideal.” She didn’t say so, but she was sure this was one more reason for this strange event. Why had she been the holdout for coming clean with the kids? Then she added, “I know the Pulaskis will be happy to know they can tell our friends they can go nude and they no longer have to refrain from sex when you and Kate, and I guess Viv’s two children, are at their pool this summer.”


All the new thoughts were muddling up Stephen’s brain… but his ongoing masturbation didn’t help things. He heard her apology, but still that seemed to be inadequate. It was just too much. He had a hard time remembering what they had been talking about when he went off on the rabbit trail regarding Rob.


Sue realized Stephen lost track of what she was trying to tell him. She tried to bring him back with “There are also some people that are in our group but we all know to keep it very quiet. They don’t come to the big pool parties because they have to keep their identity secret. I am going to trust you with the name of someone I know you know, but you have no idea she has an open marriage. I’m only telling you because there are two sets of photos with her in them on my computer.” She again opened a new file and opened an image of a naked middle-aged woman standing in a living room he did not recognize. But he did recognize the woman’s face.


She said “You know Yvette Carter. She and her husband Franklin are dear friends and wonderful playmates. “


If anything, that photo was more of a surprise than even hearing that his best friend’s parents had sex with his mom and dad. Mrs. Carter was an English Comp teacher at his high school. He’d taken her last spring. Even then he couldn’t help but conclude his parents knew her outside of school, but he had no idea how they knew her. He thought she was older than his mom, but he couldn’t be sure because her hair was a natural grey while he knew his mother colored hers to keep it strawberry blond. But he would never in a million years guessed that she fucked for fun. He didn’t think she knew what the word fun meant. He laughed “I bed she is demanding in bed.”

Sue cocked her head, “No, not at all. She’s actually a very tender, even artistic lover. But, your sister also thinks she’s a bear in class. It’s funny how people in private are often something totally different in public.”


Sue knew it was time to cut this discussion off and move on. She knew what she wanted to do… what that body she was wearing wanted to do, but she would not. She let go of the penis she’d been holding, took a deep breath then in a firm voice said, “OK, let’s get moving. We have more to do. Time to put some clothes on my body. You can play with it more before you go. Your dad never comes in here so you know where to hide if you want more practice.”


Her abrupt change of direction was jarring to Stephen, but he knew they’d been naked longer than they should. To his mother he said, “Oh, Dad wants you to, me to, email the couple we are meeting tonight with directions and tell them what restaurant to meet at near the club.”


Would the complications never cease? “Ok I’ll do.” She then added “You still need to put some clothes on my body, though I’ll confess I’m starting to like looking at it that way. Perhaps after this, I should just go nude around the house when it is warm, like Francine does. Would you or Kate mind?”


Stephen continued to move. “No, I wouldn’t. You have to know that even before today, I’d seen all your parts around the house before. I’m pretty sure that Kate would be up for us joining the Pulaski’s as avowed nudists, or even adopt the McCurry’s rule so that any of us can have sex wherever and whenever we want to. After all, you might not want to admit it, but I know we have found that we both like to watch each other get off.” He just got a devilish grin. Still sitting in the office chair, he spread his (her) legs wide. He took two fingers and began to use them to fuck himself.


She waited a moment… several moments as he worked his (her) fingers in his (her) vagina. It was hot, there was no question she enjoyed watching and deep down she knew she would enjoy watching him stroke his cock just as much. Her dick began to tent the sweatpants again. She knew he could see that she had an erection again. “I won’t pretend that doesn’t tempt me, or at least my dick. We’ve resisted doing too much by the skin of our teeth. It is good we are out of time or I might give in and do something I’d regret. We can only hope we will have our bodies back by tomorrow morning. Get dressed and go upstairs and brush your teeth. Be sure to use mouthwash, your father has an uncanny ability to taste semen on my mouth hours after I’ve sucked dick. It would not be good to have to explain why my mouth was full of jizz when I’ve been home all day.”


With a grin that made it clear what he wanted, he stood. The look made her uncomfortable, though on the other hand, she felt much better about his ability to pull off being her at the club. She’d used that look many times. She watched as he worked to get dressed. He managed it surprisingly well.


Once he was gone Sue moved over to the chaise lounge and began to work on her phone. As she had done many times over the years she noted how the antique was remarkably comfortable. ‘What else?’ Now she would have to brief him on what to say at dinner. Those affairs are usually her little red wagon. It was good that even though he was young, Stephen was very articulate and had great social skills. She had silently began to bank on the idea that when she and Stephen woke up in the morning they’d be back in their right minds, or bodies or whatever. She comforted herself that she was learning a lot and so was Stephen. She just hoped it was enough.


Once Stephen was back in the studio, she directed him to take a seat at the desk and she sat on a stool beside him. She told him how to open the profile of the couple he’d be going out with. A photo of a woman came up, perhaps mid 30’s, thin, but not bad looking. “This is who you’re going to see tonight. Her name is Connie. She and her husband Bill and I have been emailing for about a month.” He clicked again and a full screen photo of an erection came up. “That is Bill’s dick. You can be sure you will be sucking it, but from what you did before I don’t think you will have any problems.” The next photos showed them in different poses, sometimes having sex, other times clothed. “She does something in shipping, and he is a contractor.” She directed him to click to another screen “That is their profile. I need you to read all of this before you go. If you have any questions what something means just ask me.” She went on for several minutes about the etiquette about meeting new people and some of the challenges he might encounter.


Stephen tried to keep up, but his mom talking to him like an adult was hard to get used to. And despite his bravado, he was far less than sure of his ability to pull this off. Like his mom, he hoped this would be over in a day, but what would the consequences be if he slipped up? He didn’t know.


“When your dad gets up tell him you told them to meet us at Applebee’s on Division Street. Now one more thing; at dinner I am the one who leads these conversations. In most cases we talk about normal things first, job, family and the like. You should be fine on that part since you know more than enough about my artwork for a first meeting. By the time the food is delivered the conversation always turns to sex. A good way for you to go is to ask to hear all about what happened last night. Talk mostly to Connie. Ask what she liked, how she felt about it now, and those kinds of questions. They have kids in grade school, so they will be interested in how we were active swingers while having kids at home without them finding out.”


Stephen nodded.


“All these years” Sue emphasized “and, until today, you didn’t know. That will give you plenty to talk about over the dinner itself.” She rose to go. “I’ve texted your sister that you will be driving over to get her. Which means I need to go now. You read over that profile. And when you are done, read over ours too. You need to know what they know.”


Once his mother was gone Stephen read through the couple’s profile, then his parent’s. It didn’t surprise him that it noted that his mom was the sexually dominant one in the relationship. They listed themselves as “full-swap” and noted that they play as a couple and individually. He then went to the message section and began to read through the messages (both in the inbox and in the delete box). There were far more invites to meet up from couples and single men, that were not answered than those which were. The responses that did get sent were always written by Mom. She had quite a few people with whom she kept up regular correspondence. He had expected all the emails to be about meetings for sex, but in fact, most were just chit chat or flirting. That was not to say there were not a couple notes per month that said something like “Last night was great” or “I can’t wait to do it again”. He looked at the profiles of those who she had met, and her pattern was clear: couples that were their age or somewhat younger, and single men who were well built. He figured looking as good as she did, his mom could be picky.


He was surprised about one thing. Although looking at all those messages, and the sex photos on the profiles had turned him on quite a bit. He didn’t feel that normal irresistible urge to jack off. Was it that mom’s body was older and more mature, or was it she just didn’t have a dick? He didn’t know. But it was clear to him that being mom he was less bothered by the sexual urges that he had lived with for the past few years.


“MOM!” Kate’s voice pierced the quiet of his reflections. Stephen had the good sense to shut down the desktop before leaving the studio. He didn’t realize she’d been gone so long.


When he entered the living room, an angry Kate was waiting. “He’s trying to boss me again!” the complaint began.


It was all Stephen could do to keep his reaction to a slight grin. This was all too funny. Now his mom would know how he felt when he was trying to be helpful and his sister accused him of being bossy. He was able to overcome the desire to bless out his mother for all the times she’d done it to him. Instead, he took the long view and redressed Kate for being overly sensitive.


After the altercation was over and Kate had stomped out Sue said to her son, “Jenny called, there is a change in plans. You, well I, need to pick up Collin this evening. It seems her parents will be staying overnight for the funeral tomorrow and her parents have asked Emjay to spend the night with her to keep her company.” Then in a lower voice she said, “and her parents insisted no other friends can come over, so she told me to be extra discreet when we get there.”

Her half grin worried Stephen. It would be the first time the four of them have had time at one of the houses with no adults around since way before Christmas break, perhaps before Thanksgiving. A lot had happened since then. He also had worries about what his mother would do. But he didn’t want to say not to go too far or anything like that. How could he? And it was too late for him, (or rather his mom) to back out now. But he added, “Don’t fall asleep there, even for an hour. We don’t know how this thing works. It would be a real problem for Jenny to wake up with my mother naked in her bed.”


“And same for you” Sue replied, though that was still just a hopeful theory that they would switch back tonight.


Stephen managed the evening’s outfit with only some minor hang-ups. The thong was an irritant when he put it on, so his mom said to just go bare. That reminded her that she needed to shave her legs. She didn't trust her son not to cut her, so they did it together in her bathroom since Kate had settled herself downstairs in the family room to watch TV.


When that was done Sue took him back to her own bathroom to finish him up since there was more chance of Kate coming upstairs than Calvin. While he was trying to settle his boobs into the dark blue open cups of the bra his mother had picked out Stephen asked “Why wear this at all? It doesn’t cover anything and it’s not like you are all saggy”. She thought of giving him something else, but this is how she almost always wore it when she wore that completely see-through pale blue shirt under her blazer.


Handing him the shirt she said “Thank you for saying I don’t have the body of a hundred-year-old woman. But the bra actually does give me lift and my jacket fits better with it on.” She helped him into the diaphanous fabric. “Be careful with this. It is more fragile than your Francis Marion football jersey. Just as important, under the shirt, the bra draws the eye to my breasts more than if I went without. While my breasts are fully on view, I still look dressed. Without the bra, the blouse can look sloppy.”


Stephen thought to himself ‘If I were her for a year, I’m sure I’d be learning things each and every day.’


Once he was dressed, Sue decided there was no teaching him make-up. It would take a month just to get started. It was very fortunate that a basketball game was on so that his dad stayed downstairs while she made her own face and hair up. Sue had heard Kate go into her room while she worked to get Stephen ready. When she was done she sent him across the hallway so that “Mom” could touch base with her before she left. Kate had told “her brother” that she would be spending the night with a boy, but had not told Mom.


Sue gave Stephen a specific piece of advice for Kate about spending the night with a guy. It was good advice that he would remember for himself as well. Moments later, just like he’d seen his mother do a hundred times he knocked once on the door before going into Kate’s room.


Kate was laying on her bed wearing a yellow cotton bra and matching panty when her mother knocked and opened the door.


“So what are your plans tonight?” her mother said stepping inside.

Kate looked up from her laptop, “Well, I thought I’d take you up on the new rules. I’m going out with Mitch and then we are spending the night at his house. His parents are cool with the idea of me sleeping with him in his bed. They are real hippy types, way more than you are. They told him two years ago that he could have a girl spend the night; but he has actually never had sex while they were in the house.” She paused then added “And yes, I’ve been having sex with him for well over a year now. We have done it in his bed after school five times and in my bed about the same. The other times we’ve had sex have been out in the woods. I actually like doing it like that but the weather has to be right. He was actually my first, but we are not and have never been a couple. We are just good friends who like having sex together.”


Stephen would have to pass that bit of information on to his mother before she left. He had to be careful, he knew Mitch’s name and had met him several times but that was about it. He had been part of the Tuesday art group from the very first, so his mother actually knew him well. All he could think to do was nod thoughtfully and say “Thanks for letting me know. I like him and I couldn’t have picked a better guy for your first. Just make sure his parents call and let me know it is OK for you to spend the night with him.”


Kate surprised him when she literally sprang out of bed and gave her mother a hug. “Thank you Mom. You are the best.”


Stephen was completely taken aback.


Kate sat back on the bed. “And Mom, don’t think it was all your fault we had the miscommunication. I could have just asked if I could have sex with my friends while you were home. But I didn’t so I’m just as much at fault. It’s not like I made any secret about it, I left the used condoms and wrappers in the waste basket knowing full well you would see them. I don’t know why I didn’t talk to you about it right off. I really did want to tell you all about it the very first time Mitch and I had sex. It was his first time too. Perhaps tomorrow when you have more time we can talk.”


Stephen did not want to get into this. He might look and sound like their mother, but he was not her. Looking for a way out he said “Yes, I would like that. Tomorrow for sure we will find time to talk. I will tell you anything you want to know about my sexual experiences as well.” He made to leave.


Kate was not done, “And Mom, I really appreciate you saying I can wear your clothes. But I have to confess something. Well…on nights you are out I’ve worn some of your outfits. Not the super crazy stuff, or even like what you have on right now. I haven’t been quite that daring, at least not when I was going out of the house. This isn’t Charlotte and I didn’t want word to get back to you if some busybody thought you needed to know your daughter wasn’t dressed right.”


“I know you have. But thanks for telling me” Stephen said again trying to get out. He actually had no idea if his mom knew or not.

“So can I wear one of your blouses?”


Stephen might be wearing his mother’s body, but he did not have a lifetime of keeping aware of when and how much of her chest was showing. He literally had to look down and then over to Kate to realize why she asked. He had been sitting on her art stool causing the blazer to hang halfway open. Kate could clearly see he wore a see-through shirt over an open-cup bra. It certainly was no problem that “his daughter” could see his right nipple, but it would matter at Applebee’s.

Not giving away he had not foreseen how easily he would expose himself, Stephen closed the jacket and buttoned one button. He found it noteworthy that Kate did not seem at all surprised at what he was wearing. He certainly would have been. Once again it was confirmed that he was a doofus and had not seen what was plainly in front of him. He was mostly concerned that there was some subtle difference between a blouse and a shirt that he did not know. So he just said “Sure. This morning I said you could wear whatever you want of mine and I meant it.”


“Great!” Kate said as she got off the bed and opened the door. He couldn’t miss she didn’t get dressed but headed across the hallway in the bra and little panties. It is entirely possible she would have done the same the day before when it was just her and Mom; but it was also possible she was testing the new rules. He had no idea. He followed her into their parents’ bedroom and into the bedroom’s walk-in closet. He tried not to look at her ass, but it was hard. It was very, very nice looking. He gestured to his mother’s clothes, “Go ahead. Pick away.”


Without a word, Kate peeled off her bra and tossed it to him


When they first moved to their house over a decade ago they were young enough to not have any concerns at the fact they would be sharing a bathroom that connected their two rooms. For the first couple years after that, his mom showered them together, but that was a very long time ago. And like when he looked in the mirror at his mom’s naked body, this was far from the first time he’d seen his sister’s boobs. Because Kate was less than a year younger than him, they began puberty at almost the same time. They had both gotten a good talking to about both privacy and the realities of sharing a bathroom after a few rounds of deliberately embarrassing one another about their sprouting pubic hair. At their parents' suggestion, they agreed not to lock their end of the door as a sign of trust (especially since they both knew the “locks” could be so easily bypassed). Over the four years since then, they had indeed accidentally seen parts of the other naked more times than they could count… albeit briefly each time. Yet in all that time neither of them had ever deliberately watched or stared at the other’s “private parts”. To both of them, it was an important point of mutual respect. Even still Kate knew enough of what her brother’s erection looked like to tell both Monica and Dianna when she suggested they ask him to be their first sexual partner. And for the last year, more Saturday nights than not, they could hear the other sibling having sex both through the wall they shared and when one of them was in the adjoining bathroom. They both had more than once teased the other about the noise they or their partner had made. Yet despite all of that, this was the first time he had ever stood looking at length at her bare breasted, well since she had breasts that is. He knew it was a violation of their pact but he had to act like their mother and her mother would not have turned away.


Even conflicted as he was, he could not deny his sister had developed quite a figure. Almost nude she looked even more like a sixteen-year-old version of the body he was wearing than when she was fully dressed. The only real difference was her butt, thighs, and boobs had less mass. It was like looking at a slimmer and smoother version of his mother.


Kate picked out and donned a green button-up top that had an opaque placket and vertical seams but was mostly see-through. She then pulled a dark green wool mini-skirt from a hanger and pulled it on. From the other side of the closet, she took a brown leather jacket. Lastly, she picked one of the three remaining pairs of boots. The pair she picked was brown lace-up with a low heel. She commented that if she wore high heels she would be taller than Mitch and he was sensitive about his height. When she pulled them on, they went almost to her knee.


She left the closet and stood in front of her mother’s dressing mirror and said “And?”


In the mirror, dressed so similarly, they looked even more alike than ever. What Stephen was thinking in his head was ‘She is way too smok’n hot for that art geek she is going out with and screwing tonight’. What he actually said was “Nice. Sexy, but if you keep the jacket mostly closed, even without a bra it reveals very little but promises a lot.”

Kate beamed, turned to her mother, and said “Thanks. I love you so much.” She then hugged her mother and turned to leave.


Stephen had almost forgotten what his mother had told him to tell her. “Oh and Kate, take the whole box of condoms. Spending the night with Mitch will mean you will have more stopping and starting than you are used to. Each time you take a break and he loses his erection you need to use a fresh condom even if he has not ejaculated. And expect he will be ready to go when you wake up.” Stephen was pleased he had repeated his mother’s words almost verbatim.


Kate turned back, a look of both surprise and joy on her face. “Thanks. I didn’t think of that.”


Finally alone in his parent’s room, Stephen felt like he was finally off the hook…for now. He went down and across the upstairs landing into his own room. He knocked once, his mother was laying on her back using her iPad. In a casual voice loud enough to hear from the bathroom he said “Stephen, I will be in my studio for about half an hour before I have to go.”



Chapter 8


Stephen went to the studio and a few minutes later his mother joined him. He briefed her on the interaction with Kate then asked what to say when Mitch’s mother called. She told him to agree but if she wanted to talk, “tell her you are at dinner and will call her in the morning.” When she asked some questions, he found himself explaining how he and his sister had worked out their own code of conduct regarding nudity. He told her that he felt he had violated it by watching her pick out clothes wearing just her panties.


“You did good Stephen” his mother praised. “I must say I did not know you’d never been in the prolonged presence of your sister while she was undressed before.”


Stephen corrected “Oh, she had on her panties, so she wasn’t naked.”


“Yes, yes, I heard what you said, but you are missing what I’m saying. Your father and I just assumed the solution that ended the fighting a few years ago was you two just gave up trying to keep from being seen naked. Not that I’m criticizing your choice, I think it was an elegant one and shows more maturity than we gave you credit for.”


Stephen sitting at the desk chair said “I suppose it might seem weird to you since you, as an artist, see nudity as so normal. Now that I say that I think both Kate and I would agree, despite what it might appear. I have no doubt if you went in to her room right now, as me, and said that Mom said it was up to us to decide if the family should adopt nudism; she would totally say yes. So it’s not about embarrassment. I think our approach to sharing the bathroom has been about our trust. But, the boundaries by which we show both trust and respect have been changing already. The change in how we interact started a year ago the night Monica and Kate came in my room together about having sex with Monica. I have no doubt that when she left the room for us to do it; that Kate stayed in the bathroom listening the whole time to ensure I treated her friend right. I say that because the next day she came and asked how it went for me. At first I was hesitant, but after she recited the details and it was apparent she knew everything that happened I opened up. She said that Monica had told her what we did but I suspected it was more than that. Kate wasn’t asking what happened but rather she was just asking for my take on it. Since she clearly already knew all the ins and outs of what we did as it were; I had no reason to fear embarrassing her with what I said so I told her how it was from my perspective. Then surprise of surprise she gave me suggestions, very detailed suggestions of what Monica wanted me to do differently the next time. I had the good sense to listen and do what she said. Over those first three or four sessions Monica and I had, Kelly couldn’t have been more involved if she were standing beside the bed coaching.”

Sue could not help but laugh. She’d laughed more on this crazy day than she had in a long time. But this too was funny to her. Stephen must have seen it too and for a while they both just sat there laughing at the absurdity of the whole situation. She laughed not only about what he’d just said, or the craziness of switching bodies, but the entire way they had all been ignoring the things going on at home for so long. After a while Sue told him to go on.


“After that, without any plan, we have been completely open as far as talking about our sex lives.” He seemed to think, then suggested, “You know, the truth is I wanted to tell you, but I thought I couldn’t. It also helped that Kate couldn’t talk to you either about the ups and downs of her sex life, so we confided in each other. And of course we also began to compare what we each heard from the other room and we both learned to put actions to sounds. I bet from the bathroom I could write a play by play of one of Kate’s hour long sessions.”


Sue took all this in. It was just so much new information to process. “I guess I didn’t realize how sound traveled between your rooms. So earlier, when you talked about being with Monica while Kate has been with her guys, I didn’t quite grasp what that meant. So what I think you are saying is that you can more or less hear and know what the other is doing in bed? Is it almost like watching even though you can’t see it?


He nodded “Yep. I can’t hear your room though because it is down and across the hall. It was a process but by the time she asked if I would do Dianna we were talking as much about what she and her guys were doing as about me and Monica.”


Sue jerked her head over to look at him “Dianna? What about Dianna?”


Stephen sighed. “That is what I wanted to tell you before I go off with Dad. It looks like all sorts of stuff is coming out and I don’t want you to think I was hiding something. Because I’m not, and I don’t regret my choices”


Sue continued in a sharp tone “Don’t tell me you have had sex with Dianna?”


Stephen shot back, “No Mom, you can’t play that game! You say you are proud of fucking Rob Pulaski a few weeks after his seventeenth birthday when you were what? Thirty-Seven? I was sixteen and she had just turned fourteen and if you will let me explain you will see I did the right thing.”


Sue just sucked in and said, “OK, explain.” Vivian had told her last March she’d made an appointment for Dianna to get an IUD put in because she said her daughter had become sexually active. Though Viv had never given a hint who Dianna was screwing, it seems it was Stephen. ‘What else hadn’t Vivian told her?’ she asked herself.


Steven began “Kate asked me to have sex with Dianna for a really good reason. The night before Dianna told her there was a guy in her neighborhood that had all but asked if she would come over to his house to get it on. Not the guy who she started having sex with in the summer, that wasn’t on the horizon yet. The guy she was talking about was not her age or even in high school, but he was like twenty or something. I guess he’d been hitting on her for a while, but she’d told him that she was going to wait till she turned fourteen to start having sex with guys. So that night Dianna told Kate that since she’d turned fourteen the week before, she was planning on telling him she would have sex with him the next time she saw him. She insisted she would just do it once to see what it was like. That got Kate really worried and concerned. You know as well as I do that by then she was as tall as her mother and had developed really nice boobs, almost as big as Mrs. Flint’s. Kate was sure that that if Dianna did it just once with a grown man that would not be the end of it. It would be like what happened to Jenny but way worse. Of course, we didn’t know about Jenny at the time but she knew that men took advantage of girls just like that. Kate didn’t want her to wreck her life so she asked Dianna if instead of that man she would do it with me. Dianna told Kate that she would much rather have sex with me but didn’t think I would do it. It turns out that she’d been thinking about it ever since I’d started having sex with Monica, but given how we are almost like brother and sister, she didn’t ask. She knew I would be a way better choice than what she was planning on doing, but didn’t want to get shot down if she asked. Kate came to me and told me what Dianna had said and asked if I would take her on just like I had Monica. That was a year ago last month.”


Sue tried not to sound aggressive “Why was she going to do that? If a grown man was hitting on her she should have told her mother about it.”


Stephen looked at his mom with incredulity. “I thought I was blind. Don’t you know that Dianna and her mom’s relationship has been on a rollercoaster ever since her dad died? I know you know how Mrs. Flint went crazy with sex and alcohol for like two years right? To this day, Dianna has not forgiven her mom for bringing home a strange man for sex just one week after they moved home after staying with us. To both Collin and Dianna it looked like she was spitting on their dad’s grave by bringing men into their dad’s bed. Now you told me all this stuff today; I can see Mrs. Flint was not forgetting their dad, but she was just continuing what she had been doing before he was killed. But they did not know that. I’m pretty sure they still don’t know that.”


Sue did not know why she’d never thought of how it looked to the Flint kids before. Of course, they thought their mother and father had been monogamous, why wouldn’t they? Every message from the overculture taught them that normal married people were. Worst yet they were taught that sex outside of marriage was betrayal. So by openly screwing other men Vivian was, in effect, betraying their dead father. Without a counter-narrative, that must have been what the Flint kids had believed. Keeping their lifestyle a secret had done actual, and possibly irreparable, harm to Dianna and Collin.


But, in her mind, Sue considered that Dianna had been eleven when her father died. Even if she’d had the insight to explain to Dianna, how could she have understood at that age? Perhaps she, Calvin, and Vivian had mitigated the situation by taking in the family and openly having Vivian sleep in their bed. Sure at eleven Dianna likely didn’t understand, but at fourteen she must have seen the sexual component of that relationship. Of course she did. How had she and Vivian convinced themselves that the kids would not see it? That was why the girl had essentially guided her mother to confirm what she already knew about the fact she’d been having sex with Calvin. Even as Dianna was once again told a half story, she knew that her mother had not been having an affair; but that her mother and her best friend's parents were, in effect, one grafted family, and sex was just naturally part of it.


Sue thought back to last summer when Vivian called her over to the house to explain to Dianna.

There had been no pushback when she’d told fourteen-year-old Dianna that she thought it was a good thing that her husband and Dianna’s mother were lovers. She let her know it had never been a secret. Sue assumed that Dianna thought that the sexual relationship had started while her family had lived with the Richard’s. She did not disabuse her of the idea. And if, as Stephen said, Dianna was such a fan of porn, she would know full well that with three of them in the bed the two mothers were having sex as well. Sue put it all together in her head; ‘Yes, that was it, Dianna hadn’t been confronting her mother with proof she’d been having an affair, but was seeking confirmation that all was well. No wonder that after Sue had told the girl that she knew and approved of her mother and her husband’s sexual relationship she had latched on to Sue in a hug that wouldn’t quit.’


Still Sue knew that reality would not mitigate the damage Vivian had done by leading her children to believe that she only became sexually active with other men after their father had died. As far as Sue knew, Vivian had convinced herself that the kids knew nothing about her time of using booze and an endless stream of men to drown the pain, even while having the comfort of Calvin’s arms. She doubted that the kids had missed that. Yet, how could an eleven-year-old girl and a thirteen-year-old boy understand why their mother was behaving so? Sue understood. She’d done much the same thing when she was nineteen and twenty. Actually, Viv was far more responsible than Sue had been in her wild years. Even when drinking, Vivian was and still is a condom fanatic with men outside their circle. She knew that firsthand, she’d been with Vivian on a good number of those cruising expeditions. Ostensibly she had gone with Vivian to keep her safe, but they actually had a lot of fun on some of those outings… OK, they had fun on all of those outings. Yet, in all the times they dragged a man, or two to a nearby hotel; she never once had to remind Viv to use a condom. And Viv always used condoms for blow jobs as well. Sue was not a fan of sucking latex, but when she was out cruising with Vivian it was the rule for both of them. She remembered how Vivian had said on multiple occasions, even before Jack had died, that to her a condom is an emotional barrier as well as a protective one. She said she believed that it kept the man from touching her spirit. Only bare-back sex counts as real sex to Vivian.


Yet her children knew none of that. If they had been like the McCurry’s, the children would have known and understood that there was no betrayal there. Yet that alone did not seem to explain why, at fourteen, Dianna was bound and determined to start having sex with random men.

“I didn’t say what you did was wrong,” Sue told Stephen though she knew full well that was her first response. “I’m just seeing a lot of things much more clearly than I did yesterday. And you are right, we were both blind to what was right in front of us.”


Speaking slowly Sue asked “Do you know why she told Kate she was determined to start having sex? Was it just because Kate was having sex so she thought she should too?”


Stephen had just assumed his mother knew everything about what Mrs. Flint had done in those years after she was widowed. But perhaps she didn’t. He decided he needed to fill her in.

“Mom,” he said, “do you know what happened to Dianna and her mother’s relationship after Mr. Flint was killed?”


“I thought I did, but perhaps I don’t. Why don’t you tell me?”


Stephen took a big breath then began. “Dianna was, and is, conflicted about her mother’s behavior in the two or three years from when her dad died till when her mom married Mr. Otis and he moved in. I know for sure she resented how fast her mom seemed to move on from Mr. Flint’s death. Collin wasn’t really around home much due to football and baseball; so it was just the two of them most of the time. From what Dianna has told me, right off her mom started talking to her like she was an adult friend, not her mother. At first, it was just normal stuff, but after a few months, she started telling Dianna all about her sex life. I don’t think she ever told her about doing it with Dad or the people we know, but it was like she wanted Dianna to be her adult best friend. It wasn’t that she just would go on and on about what she did with guys she picked up, but she did that. I mean she told Diana really detailed stuff about what the guys did right and wrong in bed; but as Dianna got older and her body developed, her mom started teaching her all about what to do in bed with a guy or guys.”


“Like what?” Sue asked.


“Well, like each part of having sex with a guy or a girl and what to do when she had two guys or a guy and a girl in bed at once. She told me how her mother told her how good it felt when a guy’s penis was long enough to hit her cervix when he fucked her. Whenever she’d had sex with a guy who could do that to her, the next day she’d go on and on about how good it felt. For her thirteenth birthday, her mom got her a long dildo so she could see what it felt like. After that, she was sure her mom was also saying she could start having sex anytime she wanted.”


“In the first few months hearing about her mom screwing guys, it just grossed her out; but by the time she was in 7th grade she had come to like how her mom talked to her like she was an adult. She said she came to look forward to hearing all about the sex her mom had the night before. It just became their normal conversation and it didn’t seem weird at all to her. Dianna told me that her mom right out asked her about how she masturbated and how often she did. That led to her telling her mom about playing with herself just like her mom talked about fucking. That was when she bought Dianna the dildo and suggested some porn websites to look at.”


Sue was incredulous. “I thought Vivian told me all about what she’d said to Dianna about her sex life. Clearly, she had not told me a great deal of it. Last summer Viv had told me that Dianna had become sexually active with a pair of boys who lived near their home, but she never mentioned the two of you having sex. I guess I don’t know her as well as I thought I did. I’ve heard that some single mom’s often over share with their teenage daughters and start treating them like peers; but I didn’t have a clue that Vivian had done that.”


“Oh, she told her mom all about us from the very first time. I guess Mrs. Flint has heard about every single thing we have done. But it is strange that her mom told you about the two guys in her neighborhood, but not about me.”


Sue just nodded. It seemed odd to her too.


Stephen went on “It took a while but Dianna figured out while her mom brought home a lot of different guys for casual sex, it was usually one of the same three guys. Oh, and there was a couple who she would have over too, and not just for sex. They seemed to be regular friends that had known her dad. Perhaps that is why Dianna knew what was going on when none of the rest of us did. Now I can see they were probably a couple in your group.”


“That would make sense” Sue agreed. “It would also help to explain why Vivian has always been vague and evasive about what she had told Dianna. Did she hear their names?”


“Oh yea, it was a man named Simon and his wife Belle. Like I said, they came over for dinner and stuff before they went to her mom’s room to have sex. Dianna said Belle was really nice. They still come over to her house, but they haven’t had sex there since Mr. Otis moved in; well not when Dianna’s been there at least.”


Sue nodded. “Yes, Simon & Belle Frazier. And yes they are part of our group. Dianna would have seen them at all the pool parties for the past four years, so she knew they were part of our social group. Did she not tell you that?”


Stephen was surprised. “No, she didn’t. So I’ve seen them?”


Sue turned to the computer and pulled up a directory. The photos were of a pool party at the Pulaski’s but not one that Stephen had been to since most of the people were nude. Sue opened an image of a nice-looking couple perhaps in their late twenties and the woman was clearly pregnant. The man was completely naked but the woman had on bikini bottoms. “This is from two years ago. Now do you recognize them? Last summer they brought their baby with them to all three big pool parties.” His mom then pointed out “You can see Mrs. Pulaski and her daughter Michelle, and to the left is the McCurry’s daughter Marcella laying on the deck and Glen and Stella Eisenstein’s son Seth and his wife. And of course, that is your father on the chaise lounge. In the background you can seem more people I’m sure you recognize. Viv and Mary and the others are at the other table out of the frame. But I guess you can see now that those three big parties are just about the only time swimwear is expected; though you know full well that most of the swimwear at those parties would not be legal at a public pool.”

Stephen recognized everyone, even those in the background. ‘So why didn’t Dianna tell him that that couple were at the pool parties?’


As if thinking the same thing Sue said, “This all but confirms that Dianna knows full well about the poly group and our lifestyle. I guess Vivian had just totally convinced herself that her daughter just couldn’t add two plus two. That would also explain her response when Dianna showed her the video she’d made of your dad and her mom together. Dianna has been keeping her mother’s secret. That is why she never told you all of what she knows. That is commendable. But then why was she sexually acting out if she had come to enjoy her mom talking to her like an adult about sex?”


Stephen had the answer. “Her mom and Mr. Otis got married only a few months before Kate started to have sex. When Kate started it was only a matter of time before Dianna did too. After all, if you were fine with Kate having sex before she turned fifteen, she thought that she should start having sex as soon as she turned fourteen. She was sure her mom thought she should have already started having sex when she was still in 8th grade, but Dianna thinks a lot more of your opinion than of her mother’s. Importantly, after the wedding, her mother had gone back to talking to her like she was a little kid. That pissed her off. And I think you are right about that video. I’m sure that is why she filmed Dad and her mom screwing. I’m sure that you are also right about her wanting to keep her mother’s secrets since she has never once mentioned to me anything about Dad and her mom. She is not the least bit embarrassed about anything else with me and she told me a lot. Some of which will help you understand why she was frustrated. Like the story about when, a few months before the wedding, she was watching porn in their living room while she… uh… jilled off as you would say. She was on the floor in front of their TV wearing only a tee shirt, nothing else. The dildo her mom got her has a suction cup base, we’ve played with it while we screwed a few times. It was stuck to their hardwood floor and she was sitting on it so it was up her ass while she fingered her pussy. She likes doing that. When she is with me of course she uses my dick rather than a dildo.”


Sue broke in “I guess you are right she isn’t embarrassed about what she tells you. Not many girls would tell a boy about that.”


Stephen replied, “That isn’t the part I was getting at. See her mom and Mr. Otis showed up unexpectedly while she was getting herself off. Her mom acted like she was doing something wrong… even though her mom had seen her doing that very thing in the past. That made her really mad that her mom acted like she was shocked and upset. Pretty much from the time her mom gave her the dildo and recommended porn sites, she’d put videos from those sites on the living room television when Collin was at football or baseball practice, even when her mom was home. She openly masturbated right in front of her mother and a couple of times her mom had walked in while Dianna was using her dildo. When she did, her mom had just praised her for being so grown up. She said as long as Collin wasn’t home it seemed the more sexual stuff she did, the more her mom treated her like an adult.”


“By the time her mom got remarried and Mr. Otis moved in, Dianna had become what her mom had wanted her to be. As Dianna described it she was a virgin slut just waiting to start fucking her brains out. Then overnight it all changed. Like right up to the weeks before he moved in she and her mom laid out by their pool to sun naked anytime Collin wasn’t home. But, in those first months after her mom got married, she couldn’t come out of her room unless she was fully dressed even if it was just the two of them. To make it worse, her mom didn’t change how she acted at home one bit. It pissed her off that even when Collin was home her mom would walk right through the house topless; yet all of a sudden, she couldn’t do the same even if neither her brother nor Mr. Otis were there. To spite her mother, when it was just the two of them, Dianna started going around the house completely naked in front of Collin. When she told me she did that, I found it odd that Collin had never told me. I would have thought he would tell me because like I told you, his mom routinely wears just a bra and panty set or lingerie around the house while I’m there and I’ve seen her totally nude by the pool, but nothing about his sister.”


Sue now understood what the conflict was and why Dianna had been so bound and determined to start having sex. It also told her that once a family develops a culture of secrecy, it pervades everything. Once again she felt ashamed for her poor decision making.


Stephen continued “After she’d turned fourteen and Dianna told her mom all about us having sex, her mom let up as long as Mr. Otis was not around. They started talking about sex again. Her mom liked to hear everything Dianna did with me and then the other guys and even gave her pointers. By the middle of last summer, they even went back to sunning nude and skinny dipping together. She said that they even did it when Collin or her husband were home; though she had to put her suit back on if either of them came out. But, right at the end of the summer, her mom only put on her bikini bottoms and sometimes not even that when Collin came outside. But Dianna still had to put on both her top and bottoms. I know that she plans this summer to push her mom to let her sun nude at the pool whenever she wants.”


Sue put in “I know about some of that. Recall when two summers ago Vivian and I took Kate and Dianna to the Outer Banks. I spent the week doing sketches of the three of them, mostly in the nude. I can tell you both girls loved going naked out in the sun. The fact your sister has kept that nude painting on her bedroom wall says volumes about how she feels about nudity. I guess I didn’t know things changed when Viv got married. Just as we have the last three summers Kate and I sunned and skinny-dipped with Viv and Dianna a number of times at their house. But I didn’t know Viv was sunning nude when Collin was out at the pool. When we have been there without our suits on Viv has the guys stay inside. Not that there is anything wrong with it; it’s just she had not told me that she goes nude in front of Collin.”


Stephen nodded. “OK, so you do know some of this. So by the first of the fall, things with her mother had gone back to how they were, at least mostly. I guess I forgot to say that before she married Mr. Otis, she had been telling her mom about her having sex with Kate and Monica. That had stopped when Mr. Otis moved in; but after she and I started having sex her mom seemed to want to hear everything again. Dianna was all too happy to tell her mom every little detail about everyone she has sex with. She was happy that she finally was doing the things her mom had talked about. Like Mrs. Flint had told you, in late April she started screwing a guy who goes to Francis Marion in her neighborhood, and in May she started doing a second guy who she also knew from riding the school bus. She can pretty much screw one or both of them anytime she wants. Oh and since you don’t count her or Collin as company, starting in the fall she began to join Kate and her guys from the art club for threesomes from time to time. She tells her mom all about all of it.”


Vivian had kept so much from her. It was hard for Sue to believe. Then a bolt of understanding hit Sue. Stephen had run right over the physical nature of Kate and Dianna’s relationship as if that were obvious. Well, it hadn’t been obvious to her. Yes, Viv had told her that her daughter had become sexually active with a pair of boys who lived near their home last May; but Stephen seemed to be saying that the two girls had been having sex for a good while before the events of a year ago. It sure sounded to her like he was implying that Kate and Dianna had been having sex for years. Again she wondered if the teen culture had changed that much. When she was a pubescent girl such things would not have occurred to her, but to Dianna and Kate….?


Sure, since the terrible day four years ago when they heard about Jack’s passing, Dianna and Kate had slept in the same bed at least one night out of every four or five. She and Vivian didn’t even consider the other’s children company; Kate, Dianna, Collin and Stephen had been effectively jointly parented by her and Vivian together. Like her son had reminded her, even the house rules about having friends over didn’t apply to the Flint kids. But now she saw what she should have realized. Dianna knew her mother had sex with women and that meant Kate did too. Given that knowledge and their access to porn and the fact they were in the same bed at least once a week… how had she not seen it? Then she asked herself ‘Did Vivian know and just not tell about this also? Of course she had. Perhaps Vivian just assumed she knew full well what the girls had been doing night after night just across the hallway.’ She thought it best not to acknowledge to Stephen that she had been so naive to what was going on behind Kate’s door.


Cautiously Sue summarized “So Dianna was resentful that her mother changed the rules and expectations regarding her sexuality. It sounds like with her mother’s encouragement she had been moving toward embracing the same lifestyle of recreational sex with a variety of partners that her mom had been flaunting for the prior few years. Then suddenly, as it seemed to Dianna, her mom changed all the rules and expectations with no explanation or input from her. Do I understand it correctly?”


“Exactly”.


“So you can tell me now how it happened you had sex with a girl who is almost like family and, as I understand it, had just turned fourteen-years-old?”


“It was the long weekend when you guys went to that big Martin Luther King Day art show last year to sell your paintings. I guess that means it was a year ago last week. You left the four of us here from Friday night till Monday. You had even arranged with Monica’s parents to drop her off to stay the weekend so the three girls could have fun. Well we did have a lot of fun, but not the kind of fun you expected. We were all hanging out in the family room that first night. We were all just chilling.

The girls got talking and laughing. I couldn’t belief how explicit they got in their sex talk right in front of me and Collin. They talked about masturbating and sucking dick and eating pussy. Both Monica and Dianna had sucked a couple of dicks before that day, but Kate had done more guys than both of them combined. I think they were trying to embarrass Collin and me by talking about all the things the three of them had done in bed together. Then something came up about Collin having never had sex yet. Collin might be good looking but girls scared him to death last year. Kate was the only girl he was really comfortable around, though he was getting used to Monica as well. The girls asked him why and he told them how he was just not good enough with girls to get to the point where sex was on the menu. Kate being Kate, just asked Collin if he wanted to go up to her room and have sex right then. At first, he thought she was picking on him, but she took him by the hand and they went up to her room. They were gone over an hour. I think Kate really liked being his sexual teacher.”


Sue tried to look impassive, but it was hard.


Stephen went on, “So on that Friday night Kate and Collin had sex for the first time while we waited for them downstairs. Later on Monica and I did our thing in my room and Kate and Collin did it again, that time they did it in the guest room. Since you had been the one to put us all in the same house, for the first time Monica and I actually spent the night together. When Kate had worn out Collin she left him in the guest room and slept with Dianna in her bed. Well, they had sex first then they went to sleep. Are you following?”


Sue nodded, “Yeah, I get it. I guess I was kind of naïve to think you guys would just play Yahtzee for three days.” At this point, she was not nearly as surprised by the revelation that Kate had offered to be Collin’s first sex partner as she was about Stephen having sex with Dianna. After what else she had learned that day it made perfect sense that Kate would offer to be Collin’s first. Her daughter seems to have fully embraced the idea that sex is a normal thing that friends did with friends. After all, the boys Kate was screwing from the art club weren’t boyfriends any more than Collin was.


Stephen had not meant to spill the beans on that. It was not his to tell his mother last spring and summer, from time to time, his sister and his best friend had sex just for fun. He had to put it into context of how he came to have sex with Dianna lest his mom get the wrong idea. “Let me explain what happened. The next morning, Kate came into my room with me and Monica still in my bed. She told both of us what Dianna had told her the night before, right in front of Monica, she asked if I would have sex with Dianna…like right then. The three of us talked and when we were done, I agreed it was the right thing to do. Mom, I think you would have been proud of me. Even though I was still new to sex I knew to go slow. Kate’s coaching had really helped a lot and I spent way over an hour just talking to her and us getting used to touching each other’s naked bodies. She hadn’t expected that. That was not what she saw on the internet, but she really liked it a lot. Not to get ahead of myself, but in the end, like by late summer when she was doing other guys regularly, that was normally most of what we did together. And…though we haven’t screwed since the fall, we still snuggle naked whenever she needs it, especially when she is feeling down.”


“Does Jenny know?”


“Actually, she does, but the last time we had sex, like dick in pussy sex was in September and we haven’t had oral sex since the first week in October. Dianna sometimes spends a lot of the time that we are in bed together crying. It’s like she totally trusts me and can just let go with me in a way she can’t with anyone else. When she is spending the night with Kate she just comes through the bathroom, already naked, and crawls in with me. I know what she wants, so I push off my underwear and we snuggle. Mostly it’s just being together. Lots of times she has me to lay on my back so she can work my dick into her ass before we can just snuggle with me inside of her. Once she started having sex with other guys doing that became more important to her. She doesn’t do it with anyone but me. But as often as not we don’t do anal to get off, she just liked that physical connection so I only move enough to keep hard.


Since the fall we haven’t had regular sex, but she likes to hold my erection in her hand and she likes me to softly touch her breasts. But when she asks me to, I still put my dick in her ass while I hold her. It really means a lot to her. It’s not to get her off exactly, she just wants to feel me inside of her. So, all this time we have mostly been doing the same kind of thing, talking softly and snuggling sometimes for an hour or so, but lots of times we go to sleep like that. And, like I told you, when she is down, she cries and I hold her tight. Usually, but not always, once we are done talking and stuff, she will jerk me off while she masturbates. Sometimes she likes me to put my middle and index finger in her to help her get herself off. Then we go to sleep. When I wake up in the morning she’s gone.”

“When we do it at her house, we only do it if Mr. Otis isn’t home. I know her mom knows what we are doing in her room, but we never directly talk about it when I am there. We do it at her house mostly in the daytime. If Mr. Otis comes home while we are in her room her mother or Collin will knock on the door to let us know. I think both of them see what I do with her as helping Dianna. I’m real sure they don’t think I’m taking advantage of her.”


“In her ass?” Sue asked. “You say it as if that part is really common. I can assure you it is not. Most women I know are not fond of anal sex, especially with a guy with a dick as thick as yours. In my whole life, I’ve only been close to two women that really are into anal sex: Mary and one woman in our poly circle. I don’t do anal with your father because his dick is just too big and…well Dianna is just a girl.”


Stephen looked hurt. “She doesn’t let me, she asks me to. I would never pressure her. And besides, I actually prefer regular sex over anal.”


Sue knew she’d said the wrong thing and apologized.


“Let me explain and you will see what I mean,” Stephen said. “That first morning I focused on touching and kissing for a long time. During that time she showed me how she got herself off. She rubbed herself to two orgasms right in a row while I had two fingers in her pussy and my thumb in her ass; and understand that I only did that after she told me exactly what she wanted. She is really good at telling me what she wants. After that, I went down on her. Before that day she’d sucked dick a couple of times but she’d only had girls, no guys, eat her out. She offered to blow me but I put her off saying I wanted her to be completely sure of herself before we went on. She seemed to appreciate that. It was really nice. Only after she had an orgasm as I licked her just the way she directed me did I agree to let her suck me. Even still we stayed in sixty-nine on our sides. We each rested our heads on the others thigh. It was very low-keyed and…well pleasant. In time that became one of our favorite things to do. Finally, together we put a condom on my dick. She was super ready when I put my penis in. I’d heard breaking a girl’s cherry takes effort, but it just slipped right in all the way. It seems she didn’t have a cherry since she’d been regularly putting a dildo up herself for over a year, but I didn’t know that at the time. We started with me on top and I went real slow. Each time I got too close to cumming I pulled out and we went back to snuggling before we tried a new position. According to Kate, Dianna says she had the best first-time experience ever. I’m pretty proud of that.”


Sue said “You should be. That is a rare gift to a girl. Given the circumstances, you did the right thing in the right way. I’m proud of you too.”


Nothing could have made her son feel better than those words. With new confidence he continued. “It was past noon when Dianna and I finally went downstairs. It seems while we were in my bedroom, Kate and Monica had gone to the guest room and together pounced on Collin. It is funny that both of the Flint siblings lost their virginity that weekend: Collin in the evening and Dianna in the morning. The girls were like super talkative about what everyone had been doing. Collin and I got really embarrassed, but we didn’t dare leave. From then till you guys came home Monday evening we had all sorts of combinations in the different bedrooms. I hope you don’t mind we used your bed a couple of times.”


“That’s fine. Go on”


“Dianna wanted to try everything that weekend. We did all the positions I knew. Then we went on to other things. She had me cum in her mouth and she had me fuck her in her ass. I was really surprised at that. Before that day, I didn’t know she’d been doing that with a dildo just about the same size as me for the past year, so again I went super slow. She liked it way more than I’d expected her to. It was only later she told me her prior experience, though she said my dick felt a lot better than the dildo. The last time we did it that weekend, she had me put it in her like that when we were snuggling in spoons. Not to fuck exactly, but we just lay there with me behind her and my dick in her butt and I held her. Eventually, she got herself-off with her hand. I’d always wondered if girls really like anal. Neither Jenny nor Monica do, but even before I told Jenny I would only have sex with her, Dianna asked me to do her that way more than pussy sex. From what you said, I guess that is really unusual?”

Sue nodded. “Yes, it is unusual but not unique. Like I said, most women either hate anal or only do it occasionally like I do. But every woman is different, so if that is what she likes, then that is good for her.”


Stephen thought on that for a moment and said “I’ve been wanting to ask you for the longest time about this. Her mom told her that when a guy has on a condom she is not really having sex with the guy, but the condom. The same is true for blow jobs. Her mom told her if she were to suck or fuck every guy at school but she always wore a condom she would spiritually be a virgin since she would have never had the skin of a penis touch her insides. So, when we do oral or anal, I never wear a condom. She has never let any other guy but me do her in the ass nor has she blown a guy without a condom. Just me. She says that is because I’m the only guy who is really part of her. What do you think?”


Sue had to collect her thoughts. She knew Vivian believed that but it seems that her daughter had taken the idea to heart. What should she say? Certainly, there was no danger that Dianna would get a disease or pregnant by having bare-back anal sex with Stephen.


“I think,” she said slowly, “you should continue doing what Dianna wants.”


Stephen didn’t hesitate to answer, “I am sure Dianna is one of those few females who really like anal sex. After that first time, she brought this little bottle of slick stuff just for that reason. I hope it’s OK we didn’t use condoms for anal sex.”


“Normally you would not want to have anal sex without a condom, but in the case of you and Dianna, I think it’s OK if that is what she wants. How often do you two do it?”.


“It varies. Around the anniversary of her dad’s death at the end of September and the first of October she wanted to do it every day. We couldn’t work it out to do it every day, but for a couple of weeks, it was close to that. She found reasons to come over like three nights both weeks and by then I had my car. So in addition to the times she got her mom to bring her over, several times after football practice I picked her up and brought her over when you were out. But since then, sometimes we go weeks when we don’t do it at all.”


“I’m confused,” his mother said. “You seemed to say you stopped having sex with Dianna and Monica back in the fall, but now it sounds like you still have anal sex with Dianna on a regular basis.”


“Well, it's complicated,” Stephen replied. “That first long day, on the dock I told Jenny pretty much everything I’ve told you. I didn’t tell her Dianna’s or Monica’s names, but of course, she found those out as soon as she started coming over to the house. But I haven’t put my dick in Dianna’s or Monica’s pussy or mouth since the fall, just like I said. But Jenny says what Dianna has me do by putting my dick in her ass while I hold her is different. I guess they have talked about it and neither of them thinks of it as sex when we do that, it’s just our special way of making Dianna feel comforted and…” Stephen paused, then said “And loved. I love Jenny like a girlfriend, but I love Dianna in a different way. I tell Jenny about every time we have one of our times together. But to answer your question, back in December in January we only did it like once in a month, but lately, we’ve been doing it close to once a week again. It just varies based on how Dianna feels. Jenny says she’s not jealous and I believe her. She knows I don’t think of Dianna as a girlfriend.”

Sue stepped in “But Jenny knows that you love Dianna, right?”


Stephen nodded, “Yes, she does. She’s OK with that too. Jenny has hinted that if I asked, she would say it was OK to go back to having regular sex with Dianna again… well both Dianna and Monica. I’ve been afraid to pursue it out of fear I would seem to be too much like her old boyfriend. Well…” he seemed to think about it, “It’s not just me doing other people she’s been talking about. She hasn’t directly asked me if it would be OK for her to have sex with another guy, but in the same way she hints it is OK for me to have sex with Monica and Dianna, she’s hinted that there is a guy or two on my team she’d be interested in doing it with just for fun.”

“And what would you think of that?” his mom asked.


“What is good for the goose is good for the gander. What kind of hypocrite would I be if I had one set of rules for me and another one for her.”


Sue nodded but said, “Sadly you’d be a typical guy. But I hope I’ve raised you to be better than that. But there is a huge gap between ‘what if’s’ and reality. It sounds like she’s talking ‘what if’ for herself while it is a concrete reality with you and Monica and Dianna.”


This time Stephen nodded, “I know she talks to Kate, Dianna, and Monica about all of this. The three of them along with Emjay are Jenny’s only close friends. It’s kinda strange how our family brings people into our orbit. It’s almost like we have created a poly circle like you talked about earlier.”


Sue had thought that same thing, but had not said it. Somehow their kids, even though they didn’t know about the poly circle or even their open marriage, had absorbed the values that made it work. Indeed, they have created their own circle, even if they hadn’t realized it yet.


He continued “So that first time while you and Dad were gone it was the first time for any of us to have a threesome. We have had a good many more times with the three of us in my bed. It can be a lot of work to keep up with both of them. Even after we stopped having sex, we still have fun. It is really hot watching them eat each other out right beside me.”


Sue had to laugh. “Yes, I’m sure it is. But somehow, I don’t think you complain too much about being left out.”


“No, no I don’t. I never actually feel left out though. And even now, the nights I get to sleep between Monnica and Dianna are simply amazing. Sure, I’d like to have sex with them again, but just being with them like that is so… so fulfilling. I don’t know how to describe it, it’s like I’m surrounded by love. If I could just have Jenny and one of them for a night like that it would be heaven.”


Sue felt good for her son, but felt like she had to say, “As long as it's all cool with Jenny you can and should enjoy those moments.”


“Like the other things, she really is cool with it,” Stephen replied. “The more we talk the more I realize that Jenny actually is open to the idea of sharing me with them.”


His mom just nodded. “Perhaps in the near future, you can sleep between Jenny and Dianna or Monica.”


Stephen smiled as he thought about it. It was odd since he was wearing his mother’s face. “But it’s not just me who got to have threesomes with Monica. On that first day that I had sex with Dianne last February, eventually Monica went to Kate’s room to join her and Stephen. She was busy all weekend doing threesomes with both me & Dianna and with Kate & Collin. Like all day on Saturday and into the night there was sex going on constantly. We used all the condoms in the bathroom but Kate knew where to get more from your room.” He stopped. “Do you keep condoms in your room someplace other than that suitcase you showed me?”


Sue was thinking the same thing. “No” she said flatly. There was only one place to get condoms in her bedroom, in her play bag. Sue did not mean to, but aloud she said “Kate knows about my play bag? I would be irrational to pretend she had just found it that day. She must have known about it for more than a year, probably she’s known for years. If she knows about the bag she has seen the photos. If she has seen the photos she knows everything.”


Even though Sue had begun to convert to digital when Kate was a baby, there were still a few prints of newer photos in the bag, and there was a protective case holding 8x10’s. In that case, were prints of photos that counted as art in their own right. There was a print of a beautiful nude studio portrait of the three couples taken only a few months or so before Jack’s car wreck. Printed on heavy archival paper, it was a very special keepsake. More significantly were the dozen prints made from the photo session with Mary and her ex-husband that Stephen had seen earlier. They were the smaller versions of the 20x30’s she sold at conventions. There were also a dozen or so more 8x10’s that Sue had taken as reference images, but had later edited in Photoshop to make artistic erotica. None had her in them since she had taken the photos, but all had Calvin, Viv and/or Mary engaged in sexual acts. Those photos would tell Kate a great deal. Not everything, but enough to know for sure her parents were non-monogamous. Her mind was racing. That was a year ago, how long had Kate known? If Kate knew a year ago so did Dianna, yet she had never let on she knew more than her mother had admitted to. Then why didn’t Stephen know? There was only one way to find those answers and she couldn’t do that now.


To Stephen, she said “Well, I will have to talk to Kate tomorrow…assuming. Thank you for telling me all that, but you really do need to go.”


It was past time for Calvin and “Sue” to leave. There just was no more time. She had to hope Stephen pulled it off. She wanted to walk them to the door but she knew that was not something her son would do. Instead, she waited for them to go and then went to decompress in the family entertainment room. She had a good while before she needed to leave for Jenny’s and there was little she could do while staying in character. She turned on the TV.


Kate’s voice woke her from her nap. “What is going on with Mom?”


“What do you mean” Sue said, a little disoriented. It was only Stephen’s voice coming from her mouth that brought her back to her strange reality. She tried to act casual and didn’t even bother to look up at his sister.


Kate took a seat on the arm of the couch. “I’m glad she’s changing the rules, but don’t you think it is weird that like in one day all of the complaints we have been making among ourselves got through. Before she left she told me to take extra condoms because I’d be having sex on and off all night. I guess she knows all about it, but she said it like she was telling me to take a book to read. Just that normal sounding. And even the way she talks sounds weird. Like…like her vocabulary has changed.”


That last got Sue’s attention. She sat up and turned to look at Kate. Kate made no effort to keep Stephen from seeing her breasts through the see-through shirt. Perhaps Stephen was right and Kate wanted to make nudity a non-issue between them. As she raced to find the words Kate, perhaps in response to her brother’s startled look, said “Oh yea, Mom let me pick out clothes from her closet to wear to the movies and to Mike’s Pizza Shack. She didn’t even try to get me to put on a bra under this shirt. So I figured if she is OK with me wearing this out in town I can wear it around the house too. You aren’t embarrassed are you?”

Her brother assured her that it did not bother him. Taking a leap from the things Stephen had said she added, “It’s not like I’ve never seen your boobs before.”


Kate nodded, “Good. With the new rules, perhaps we can call off our efforts to not see each other in the bathroom either. After all Collin and Dianna have stopped caring if they see each other naked and it isn’t like I haven’t seen your junk fifty times before.”


Sue wondered why Stephen had not said both Collin and Dianna had been going nude around each other. Perhaps he didn’t know. That was likely the case given the pattern of deception she was seeing. She agreed assuming her son would do the same then began. “OK, here is what happened. This morning Mom came in to apologize for what she said last night. She said even if I was late, she should not have talked to me like that. And, well….I took the risk and just out and said that Jenny and I were making love in the park and we went on so long it made me late. She was like all cool with that and said she was glad I finally was open to talking to her about having sex with Jenny. She said she hadn’t asked because she’d been waiting for me to open up to ensure I was OK with talking about my sex life. I suppose she’s been waiting for us to talk about it first.”


Kate sat there thinking for a while then she said “Yea maybe that is it. She’s just been waiting for one of us to say openly that we are having sex. But it was so weird for her to tell me to take extra condoms since I’d likely be having sex on and off all night. Just as normal as could be she said we needed to use a new condom each time we took a break where he lost his wood. And she didn’t seem the least bit shy or embarrassed. You and I talk that way to each other, but it was Mom. Like I said, I’m really happy she is doing it; but why has she acted like she didn’t want to hear about it for so long, then ‘boom’ this morning she’s like it is no big deal. And then she is like totally cool with me wearing this outfit out on my date tonight. Why?”


Sue knew she had to just tell her everything, well rather that “Mom” had admitted all the things that she was now sure Kate knew already. “So I told her that Jenny and I had sex for over an hour in the park. After she seemed to be fine with that, I first told her about me and Monica and then about me and Dianna. It took some explaining why I had sex with Dianna a week after she turned fourteen, but once I was done, she said I’d done the right thing. After I was finished telling her everything, she blows me away and tells me that she and Dad both have sex with their friends. Including the Flint’s and the Pulaski’s. She just spilled out that she and Ken Kenopple were lovers for like ten years. And get this….tonight they are going to a sex club with another couple. She just told me all of that and I was like ‘Oh my god!”


Sue expected Kate to say she’d always known, but instead her eyes got big and she said “She told you that?”


“Yea. She like told this whole long story, but what it comes down to is she and Dad have been fucking other people since before they got married. She told me that only in the few years between when they got married and you were born that they were not doing other people.” Now Kate’s face began to show she already knew about most of that, but Sue thought she should open the door to a mother daughter talk tomorrow. “I’ll admit she dumped way more on me than I could follow, but she did say she was going to talk to you tomorrow about it.”


Kate nodded and seemed to think “OK, that makes sense. Dianna and I got the idea that they were waiting till she was sixteen to spill the bean since they know that once they come clean to any of the four of us we will tell the others. So how far do you think she and Dad are going to go with this? Is it going to be like we all can just tell who we banged last night at the dinner table? Not that I wouldn’t love that, but do you think Mom…no do you think Dad is ready for that? Now that I say it I’m sure Mom would be fine with us talking about sex at the dinner table, but I don’t know about Dad.”


Her brother sat looking at her. Inside his body Sue wondered what to say. Her point was a good one. She’d done all this without even consulting Calvin. Yes he was flexible, but this was a lot at once. They’d talked about this many times. It would all be fine. “Well she told me that the new house rules would be mostly up to us. We can just do like you said. Would you be OK for Mom and Dad to talk about who they banged at the dinner table?”


“Sure I think it would be cool. It’s not like I haven’t been looking at the pictures she takes at her sex parties for years.”


Sue jumped involuntarily. “You have known about those pictures for years? She just told me about them today.”


Kate shook her head. “You are so dim. Dianna and I have been looking at them for…well since we started middle school. It’s always fun when a new set of photos shows up. I guess that is why we keep going back to look.”


Sue sat slack jawed. Since the start of middle school? She would have been twelve at the time… and Dianna would have been eleven. Had she really been that unaware? She must have been. Struggling for a better response she said “I guess so. I didn’t have any idea Mom and Dad did that before today.”


With a look of superiority Kate said “I tried to tell you, but you just wouldn’t listen. No, I didn’t tell you about the pictures, but the signs were so obvious. How you and Collin missed them is beyond me and Dianna. Didn’t you even once think it was odd that when they lived with us Mrs. Flint slept in Mom and Dad’s bed?”


Sue did not have to pretend to feel embarrassed at her stupidity; she really did feel stupid thinking the kids would not notice. “No, not really.”


Kate kept up “And for a year after that she and Dianna and Collin spent almost every weekend here. And Mrs. Flint always slept with Mom and Dad. When my door was open, sometimes Dianna and I could hear the three of them having sex. Once when we were in the back yard, Dianna just happened to look through the studio window. Mom and Mrs. Flint were having sex on her chaise. We watched them for quite a while getting it on. I just can’t believe you didn’t know any of that.”


Sue thought ‘They saw us? They heard the three of us from her room? Of course,

they did. Vivian is as loud in bed as anyone I know. That would have been the time to tell them, but we missed it.’ Sue sought a way to rectify her past errors. “Mom said that if she had to do it again, she would have done like the McCurry’s or Pulaski’s. They didn’t hide anything. She said the times we’ve been at the Pulaski’s house to swim were some of the rare times anyone wears anything in their pool. And even when adults have sex around the pool, they didn’t send the kids in. She said Mrs. McCurry told her that they had just made sex so normal their children didn’t even notice it until they reached puberty. Then as teenagers, the McCurry’s told the kids they could have sex whenever and wherever they wanted in the house. That was because their parents had been doing the same with their friends for years. You know Joliette McCurry-Carter, she is their daughter. She has sat for Mom a couple of times.”


Kate said “Yea, I like her. Mom told me how you walked in while she was posing a while back. I’ve actually done my own sketches of her when she posed for Mom the last few times, and yes she is very pretty and looks great in the nude. But I can only vaguely remember what she looked like when she lived with her parents. So Mom would like us to be like them?”


“I don’t think she thinks you and I would be OK with just jumping to that level.”


Kate cocked her head “Why not? I think it would be so cool to have my friends over after school and just pull off our clothes and get with it right here on this couch. After all Mom and Dad do the exact same thing at the Pulaski’s and the McCurry’s. I know because I’ve seen lots of photos where their friends are hanging out like normal but Mom or Dad are naked and having sex with someone while the other’s hardly seem to notice. I actually can see Mom coming in the room while I’m riding Collin then asking us if we wanted anything to drink or some snacks while we fuck. This has always been our room to do our thing in, so why shouldn’t we treat sex just like any other kind of activity we do with our friends in here?”


Sue, trying to act like she already knew that was what Kate would say though it was hard not to respond with a look of total surprise. Her natural response to her daughter’s pronouncement was to sit slack jawed and bug eyed. With great effort to act how she thought Stephen would, she said “Well then when you talk to Mom tomorrow, tell her that. She said I’m pretty sure she will say what she said this morning at The Riverside Cafe’, that you can make your own choices. But what if you came home and found her with some man fucking on the couch? Would it work both ways? She told me that she has been there when Rob McCurry was younger than us and his parents had sex with their friend’s with him in the room or out by the pool.”


“All I have to say is that she should not have waited so long? Maybe I didn’t make it clear to you. I have seen at least fifty video clips of Mom and Dad having every kind of sex you can imagine with pretty much all the people at the Memorial Day and Labor Day pool parties…including some of their friends’ older kids. There is one of her going to town with Rob Pulaski when he was about your age. It seems to have been taken by his sister right in their living room. At one point his mom comes over and talks to them while they are screwing. Dianna and I have seen all the videos so we know what has been going on. So, no it wouldn’t bother me to come home and mom was fucking in the living room … well as long as I was allowed to watch.”

The doorbell rang.


Kate jumped up “Well, time for me to go spend the night with Mitch. We will talk more about this tomorrow.” And she was off.


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Ananda
Ananda
20. okt. 2023

Thank you for your response. It seems as if you studied the impact of the media and porn on kids. I applaud you for your sex-positive narratives and for showing how young people should act in sexual situations. The problem with fast-paced technology evolution is that human consciousness cannot evolve fast enough to match technology. Most parents' spiritual line of consciousness is stuck in the mythic literal (reading the Bible as fact instead of mythology) and one cannot answer modern questions from a 2000-year-old document. The principles are there but not the details. That we have to work out with our postmodern mindset. Even that is not enough as we know how wishy-washy these politically correct "all-inclusive" people can be.…

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sugarlessroark
23. okt. 2023
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You've hit on something important. "The problem with fast-paced technology evolution is that human consciousness cannot evolve fast enough to match technology." It's freaking us out, but we can't slow the tech, and we can't change the organism (us). I used to pal around with a schizophrenic guy, and it seemed like the times when he was least coherent had to do with confusing metaphor and fact. I think there's an argument for the humanities in education in there. I'd also teach logarithms at gunpoint.


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Ananda
Ananda
19. okt. 2023

It seems as if kids in the USA have access to porn from an early age without parental supervision or guidance. Not that access to porn is easily controlled. The problem with porn is that it gives a false impression of what making love or relationships are all about. Most porn humiliates women, with money shots on the woman’s face and face-f*cking. The damage a hammering dick can do to a woman’s throat can be devastating. Why do it? Only to humiliate the woman?

Porn also creates a distorted body image. The women in porn are usually beautiful, sexy, willing to have sex at a drop of a hat, and are always wet from arousal. Men in porn are not…


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Professor Polyamory
Professor Polyamory
20. okt. 2023
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The last survey I saw said that 60% of 14 year olds look at porn on a regulars basis. That needs to be taken into context when you considerer that most teens today spend hours a day on their phone, not talking to friends, but scouring the internet. Now I don't follow South Africa's teen habits, but there is a high correlation about these things across the English speaking world.

Yes, we have a problem that teens are seeing the entire world through a distorted lens via the internet/social media. Teens have long shaped their world view based on what they see in mass media, and yes by its very nature commercial porn presents the same glossy and distorted world…


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